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Why that last event really sucked, and how we make it better.

What’s the problem!?

We have all been to an event that wasn’t quite what we had hoped it would be. Where certain elements or activities that you thought were given, were missing. it takes a village to make an event amazing!

There are many reasons this could be, but Id like to focus on a few:


Sometimes an activity can’t happen because Nobody showed up. How many of you have seen a post or email asking for volunteers or staff? Did you respond? How often? Sometimes it can be easy to rest on your laurels (or pelicans in this case) and say you’ve done it before. But every event needs warm bodies. The more warm bodies, in many cases, makes the lift rediculously light! Take archery marshaling: 10 marshals in one day reduces a days archery to 2 hour shifts in many cases. Better that than 4 with four hour shifts! But you dont have to be a marshal! Perhaps you can help with set up and tear down, keeping score, etc! This situation can be overlaid on any other activity. You dont have to be authorized heavy to water-bear!


Maybe there just isnt room. Take equestrian for example, not every site can support it. But are there crossover activities? Has anyone reached out to that community to see what else might fit their needs? An A&S class on making bridles etc? Think out of the box, and lets try to keep everyone engaged as much as possible. There can’t be combat archery? Then what about an IKCAC target at the range?


Response gauges interest. Letting organizers know someone gives a crap, can help them energize or stay on task. If someone plans the best thing ever, and nobody cares but the crickets, why devote time and energy!?

Talk to you staff, especially the autocrat. Every autocrat always wants their event to be a success.   Motive isnt important, they ALL want success! Did you say ‘hi!’ To your’s? Did you tell them what you’d like to have? With enough notice to get it done? Did you talk to your community of interest? Is anyone organizing the event you want? Can you? Talk to your Barony as well, there is always room for more right!?

Dont necessarily take ‘no’ for an answer! Depending on who you talk to you can actually meet active resistance to the community you care about! I’ve personally heard several times statements to the effect of, “Great, combat archers!” Guess what, we are here to have fun as well. But the same goes with ALL our groups! Explore every option and make sure you are doing your best to make it happen, and that it is appropriate .  When an activity was publicized did you respond at all? RSVP? Send a ‘tahnk you for doing this’ message?


Personally this doesnt happen much to me. Most events I go to, Ive loved. We all want to attend events and make each one memorable. It takes all of us to make that happen.  Don’t complain about what went wrong, do your personal best to make it right!

Measuring Success – Martial Gauges

Hi friends!

as I get closer to becoming a CA martial there were two glaring omissions in my kit. A bow scale and a martial gauge.

Whats a bow scale!?

when you purchase a bow, it will display the poundage usually, or if not you typically choose the poundage you want. What if you dont know the poundage?

That’s where the scale comes in. One end attaches to the string, and then you the other end. The scale will tell you how many lbs were pulled.

Here is a scale on Amazon

What is a martial gauge?!

in combat archery and siege, there are safety minimums.  The gauge will help determine whether a persons equipment passes muster or not.




Checking things like the width of helm grills, depth of helm penetration, diameters of ammunition and more! Believe it or not these little guys are the Swiss Army Knives of martials and armored combatants alike.

Whether you’re a martial or not, I highly recommend getting these if it relates!

Someone on the SCA Combat Archery community on FB recently posted he had these pictured (top is geared to siege, bottom for CA) for sale. I just ordered two!

There are several places where you can get these. The above is from Evan Jones. I will update with links when I get them. Looks like $25 for CA, and $15 for siege ($8 S+H).  Post in the comments if you want to share your sources or wares!


Presidents Love the Valiance Proposal!

Ask not what you can do for your S.C.A.

Presidents love the Valiance Proposal, at least they should! It has recently come up that the President (Leslie Vaughn) of the S.C.A. is stepping down. Now recently at the discussions at Pennsic related to the Proposal, it was suggested that for the long game, we look at stacking the Board with people that are friendly to the Proposal. This is a good idea, though I hope it won’t come to this, and that it gets passed and enacted before then.

In the meantime, let us all thank Leslie for her service in a task that is likely thankless and daunting.

Whats the President got to do with it?

Nothing much really I guess. As with our own system of Government, the President can be a figure head. The real power lies with the B.o.D., as with our own Gov, the real power lies in Congress. Where goes the figure head, so too may follow the populace though. It may not be the place or position for the President to comment or support such things. Though there would be conversations in backrooms etc that may help to curry favor.

Next stop, Melpitas and the B.o.D.!

Though some may disagree and view this as an abstraction, apparently it doesnt require much support to get on the B.o.D., with this in mind, when a seat becomes available, why not ask the candidates about, and/or support those who are sympathetic to our causes? Is this not what we should be doing? I would think other groups are promoting candidates that share their ideals, so should we.

As always, stay vigilant, and always look for ways to keep this movement going forward!

Be well friends!
YIS respectfully,
Lord Cameron de Grey
Or, on a bend purpure between a wheel of cheese and a squirrel sable, three pheons palewise Or

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Leslie Vaughns E-Mail: president@sca.org

Barriers to Entry as a Martial Peer?

Greetings friends!

Omnibus Proposal Flag

There was/has been recently a hotly debated subject(s) on how a Peer could be evaluated for inclusion into the Omnibus Peerage in the ‘Martial Peerage’ group. I think it’s an eye opening discussion with many voices. Many of which have obvious merits. The intent of this post is to spark discussion on the merits or pitfalls of the suggestions. This is not an endorsement of any or all of them, simply to explore the possibilities. Please realize we are not there yet, we need to get this passed, but the conversation is a good one.

Apples and Oranges

One of the points made, standardized groups (eg: Order of the Grey Goose Shaft, Companion of the Yew Bow). How can we select the best of a group in on Kingdom if the barriers to entry are far lower than another Kingdom? Do other Kingdoms have an equivalent where the standards are far lower or higher? Such as a RR score of 80 minimum versus 100 kind of thing (if considered)? Are members in one Kingdoms group far more knowledgable and proficient? Could we do ourselves a service by attempting to standardize* across the known world? Is inclusion in these groups required?

What else to consider.

We aren’t primarily an arts or service Peerage, so considering that arts or service aspects are certainly not a detriment to inclusion, but is this the target? If we focus on the arts for instance are we not sending a message that the individual more belongs in the Laurelate? Do we argue against ourselves by weighing heavily on arts and/or services? After all, again, a Knight is usually best known for their fighting prowess, not their dancing, service, or leather working. Though the aforementioned all speak to a well rounded individual. Could we not conclude that measuring skill in the particular weapon form is appropriate? (Clearly this isn’t always the case, in all of this, I am not speaking in absolutes. There are always exceptions)

Using scores as an indicator.

It seems when this gets brought up, it makes people defensive. Though score is by no means the sole or only factor, ones Royal Round rank might rightly be part of the discussion. It could be evidence there is provable participation in shooting events, as well as a willingness to improve ones shooting. If there is no recorded scores in anything, how else can we gauge participation and prowess? Can we make the assumption that generally a Peer in a martial activity (in their prime condition) is a person who will beat anyone at least half the time in their respective art (or whatever metric you may choose)? In some martial communities that would be included, there are contests to win, but perhaps not tourneys. But aren’t tourneys simply an abstraction for scores?

There is the argument that a Brewer doesn’t have show scores to be a Laurel, but one can assume a Brewer has entered A&S competitions, shown documentation, and defended/showcased their work and knowledge in some way. If this is translated to the Martial Peerage, what is the equivalent? Might it be RR scores? Wins in tournaments?

The case has been heard from others that this is a Martial peerage, therefore prowess is a ‘requirement’. Take for instance a Knight, they must show skill in all weapon types right? How can they show said skill, but by entering tournaments or the like?

The checklist.

It seems there is universal agreement there should never be a checklist of items one must do to be considered. Though our opinions vary widely on what that checklist doesn’t include, (if you get my meaning). Though there never should be one, one does kind of exist right? A Knight must fight with heavy weapons, wear armor, etc. There always exists a ‘list’, whether the ‘boxes’ are all ticked off or not is individually determined by the experience, wisdom, and intelligence we bring to bear on the decision process. I’ve never heard of a Knight that never struck a blow, though It may be possible (remember that we are never speaking in absolutes here).

Personal Note:

Friends I won’t hide the fact that I don’t know it all. There is a lot to learn about this process and the Peerage orders in general. By having discussions such as this, we are allowing people afflicted with ignorance, such as myself, a way to learn more in context. I hope this can be spark for good constructive conversation. This discussion doesn’t go into the other general PLQs that might well be considered for inclusion. This is more directed to the prowess of the individual.


Please share your thoughts, help inform our friends if thee is ignorance, guide us if we are lost. Please share your thoughts by commenting below! I look forward to any conversation.

Thank you friends!
deGrey_coatofarms_new2YIS respectfully,
Lord Cameron de Grey
Or, on a bend purpure between a wheel of cheese and a squirrel sable, three pheons palewise Or

* there is some movement in this direction already
More on the existing peerages: http://www.sca.org/docs/pdf/govdocs.pdf
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